Should Rumsfeld go?
Donald Rumsfeld was brought in by President Bush during his first term to serve as Defense Secretary. He is still serving as one of only two secretaries to have served under Bush through his tenure. Rumsfeld’s goal as Defense Secretary was to make the military more agile for 21st century fighting. He immediately butt heads with top military commanders and members of Congress for his plans to cut the Crusader howitzer and Comanche helicopter, weapons that were great, but he believed were no longer valuable after the cold war. It was thought he would be the first member of the administration to be fired. Recently Rumsfeld has come under a lot of heat for his mistakes over the past few years.
Rumsfeld’s plan for a more agile military make sense in fighting against terrorism, but he should not forget other major threats like China, while war is probably unlikely, we would need heavy weaponry to fight such a strong military if it happened. Stryker brigades can not take on heavily armored tanks. The military should be prepared to fight both types of wars: light, fast, urban fighting and all out war with heavy weaponry. The worst possible thing we could do is not be prepared for a new enemy. That’s why programs like the F22 Raptor and future heavy tanks are still valuable, even if their price tags are high. We should not be planning for the enemy of today, but the enemy of the future.
While these are policy decisions with differing views, Rumsfeld’s planning of the Iraq war was just unacceptable. During a Senate Armed Services hearing before the war, General Shinseki was quoted:
“I would say that what's been mobilized to this point -- something on the order of several hundred thousand soldiers are probably, you know, a figure that would be required. We're talking about post-hostilities control over a piece of geography that's fairly significant, with the kinds of ethnic tensions that could lead to other problems. And so it takes a significant ground- force presence to maintain a safe and secure environment, to ensure that people are fed, that water is distributed, all the normal responsibilities that go along with administering a situation like this.”
General Shinseki was forced out soon after this hearing. Due to the lack proper planning and rush to war, not all troops were sent in with body armor, humvees did not have proper armor, and supply lines were threatened due to inadequate protection. Rumsfled believed he could win the war on the cheap and using light forces, I believe we were lucky our supply lines were not destroyed. Rumsfeld failed in pre-war and post-war planning. While many in the Bush cabinet claimed they did not know the post war would be this bad, I remember reading plenty of articles predicting it to be bad. General Shinseki even predicted the ethnic tensions in his quote above. Today Iraq is on the brink of civil war with all the death squads, kidnappings, and torturing. The truth is, members of the cabinet, including Rumsfeld, ignored discussions about the post war. They believed the war with Saddam would be more difficult then the post-war. After the war, the Iraqi army was disbanded leaving a large part of the population without a job and hatred for the coalition. They were trained to kill and were now pissed off at us. It also left us without a force to take over security so we could draw down our troops.
Rumsfeld also allowed the prisoner abuse scandal under his watch. I here plenty of comments saying those guys are animals and they deserve it, but lets not forget, we are not them, we are humane. That is what makes us different from them. Another point is that not all the prisoners were really terrorists or insurgents. During raids, the military would pick up large swaths of suspects since they did not know who was guilty. It was expected that they would be interrogated and released if not guilty. Instead many spent months in prison and endured abuse. When the news broke, our nation’s image of having a respected military was even more tarnished. It was known to soldiers around the world that if they surrendered to American soldiers, they would be treated according to the Geneva Conventions and were more likely to surrender in a fight. Today a soldier might think twice about surrendering to our forces. It also exposes our troops to these types of interrogation techniques on a future battlefield. I believe it may become necessary in the interest of national security to use force to get information, but their has to be evidence that the person has important information and authorization from the President or some other higher authority. This way, there is someone who is taking responsibility for his/her actions. During the recent abuse scandal, everybody wiped their hands clean and screwed the grunts. There is no way that regular prison guards decided to interrogate people with these special interrogation techniques.
Staying the course in Iraq is no longer a plan. We need a new defense secretary who has a more open mind and more ideas. All possibilities should be taken into account before going to war, which Rumsfeld did not do. I believe even if he claims the President still trusts him, he should step aside for the benefit of our country. People makes mistakes, but when they continue and people continue to die, someone needs to take responsibility. Clinton’s defense secretary resigned after Somalia, which is nothing compared to the fiasco in Iraq.
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Donald Rumsfeld was brought in by President Bush during his first term to serve as Defense Secretary. He is still serving as one of only two secretaries to have served under Bush through his tenure. Rumsfeld’s goal as Defense Secretary was to make the military more agile for 21st century fighting. He immediately butt heads with top military commanders and members of Congress for his plans to cut the Crusader howitzer and Comanche helicopter, weapons that were great, but he believed were no longer valuable after the cold war. It was thought he would be the first member of the administration to be fired. Recently Rumsfeld has come under a lot of heat for his mistakes over the past few years.
Rumsfeld’s plan for a more agile military make sense in fighting against terrorism, but he should not forget other major threats like China, while war is probably unlikely, we would need heavy weaponry to fight such a strong military if it happened. Stryker brigades can not take on heavily armored tanks. The military should be prepared to fight both types of wars: light, fast, urban fighting and all out war with heavy weaponry. The worst possible thing we could do is not be prepared for a new enemy. That’s why programs like the F22 Raptor and future heavy tanks are still valuable, even if their price tags are high. We should not be planning for the enemy of today, but the enemy of the future.
While these are policy decisions with differing views, Rumsfeld’s planning of the Iraq war was just unacceptable. During a Senate Armed Services hearing before the war, General Shinseki was quoted:
“I would say that what's been mobilized to this point -- something on the order of several hundred thousand soldiers are probably, you know, a figure that would be required. We're talking about post-hostilities control over a piece of geography that's fairly significant, with the kinds of ethnic tensions that could lead to other problems. And so it takes a significant ground- force presence to maintain a safe and secure environment, to ensure that people are fed, that water is distributed, all the normal responsibilities that go along with administering a situation like this.”
General Shinseki was forced out soon after this hearing. Due to the lack proper planning and rush to war, not all troops were sent in with body armor, humvees did not have proper armor, and supply lines were threatened due to inadequate protection. Rumsfled believed he could win the war on the cheap and using light forces, I believe we were lucky our supply lines were not destroyed. Rumsfeld failed in pre-war and post-war planning. While many in the Bush cabinet claimed they did not know the post war would be this bad, I remember reading plenty of articles predicting it to be bad. General Shinseki even predicted the ethnic tensions in his quote above. Today Iraq is on the brink of civil war with all the death squads, kidnappings, and torturing. The truth is, members of the cabinet, including Rumsfeld, ignored discussions about the post war. They believed the war with Saddam would be more difficult then the post-war. After the war, the Iraqi army was disbanded leaving a large part of the population without a job and hatred for the coalition. They were trained to kill and were now pissed off at us. It also left us without a force to take over security so we could draw down our troops.
Rumsfeld also allowed the prisoner abuse scandal under his watch. I here plenty of comments saying those guys are animals and they deserve it, but lets not forget, we are not them, we are humane. That is what makes us different from them. Another point is that not all the prisoners were really terrorists or insurgents. During raids, the military would pick up large swaths of suspects since they did not know who was guilty. It was expected that they would be interrogated and released if not guilty. Instead many spent months in prison and endured abuse. When the news broke, our nation’s image of having a respected military was even more tarnished. It was known to soldiers around the world that if they surrendered to American soldiers, they would be treated according to the Geneva Conventions and were more likely to surrender in a fight. Today a soldier might think twice about surrendering to our forces. It also exposes our troops to these types of interrogation techniques on a future battlefield. I believe it may become necessary in the interest of national security to use force to get information, but their has to be evidence that the person has important information and authorization from the President or some other higher authority. This way, there is someone who is taking responsibility for his/her actions. During the recent abuse scandal, everybody wiped their hands clean and screwed the grunts. There is no way that regular prison guards decided to interrogate people with these special interrogation techniques.
Staying the course in Iraq is no longer a plan. We need a new defense secretary who has a more open mind and more ideas. All possibilities should be taken into account before going to war, which Rumsfeld did not do. I believe even if he claims the President still trusts him, he should step aside for the benefit of our country. People makes mistakes, but when they continue and people continue to die, someone needs to take responsibility. Clinton’s defense secretary resigned after Somalia, which is nothing compared to the fiasco in Iraq.
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Rumsfeld’s plan for a more agile military make sense in fighting against terrorism, but he should not forget other major threats like China, while war is probably unlikely, we would need heavy weaponry to fight such a strong military if it happened. Stryker brigades can not take on heavily armored tanks. The military should be prepared to fight both types of wars: light, fast, urban fighting and all out war with heavy weaponry. The worst possible thing we could do is not be prepared for a new enemy. That’s why programs like the F22 Raptor and future heavy tanks are still valuable, even if their price tags are high. We should not be planning for the enemy of today, but the enemy of the future.
While these are policy decisions with differing views, Rumsfeld’s planning of the Iraq war was just unacceptable. During a Senate Armed Services hearing before the war, General Shinseki was quoted:
“I would say that what's been mobilized to this point -- something on the order of several hundred thousand soldiers are probably, you know, a figure that would be required. We're talking about post-hostilities control over a piece of geography that's fairly significant, with the kinds of ethnic tensions that could lead to other problems. And so it takes a significant ground- force presence to maintain a safe and secure environment, to ensure that people are fed, that water is distributed, all the normal responsibilities that go along with administering a situation like this.”
General Shinseki was forced out soon after this hearing. Due to the lack proper planning and rush to war, not all troops were sent in with body armor, humvees did not have proper armor, and supply lines were threatened due to inadequate protection. Rumsfled believed he could win the war on the cheap and using light forces, I believe we were lucky our supply lines were not destroyed. Rumsfeld failed in pre-war and post-war planning. While many in the Bush cabinet claimed they did not know the post war would be this bad, I remember reading plenty of articles predicting it to be bad. General Shinseki even predicted the ethnic tensions in his quote above. Today Iraq is on the brink of civil war with all the death squads, kidnappings, and torturing. The truth is, members of the cabinet, including Rumsfeld, ignored discussions about the post war. They believed the war with Saddam would be more difficult then the post-war. After the war, the Iraqi army was disbanded leaving a large part of the population without a job and hatred for the coalition. They were trained to kill and were now pissed off at us. It also left us without a force to take over security so we could draw down our troops.
Rumsfeld also allowed the prisoner abuse scandal under his watch. I here plenty of comments saying those guys are animals and they deserve it, but lets not forget, we are not them, we are humane. That is what makes us different from them. Another point is that not all the prisoners were really terrorists or insurgents. During raids, the military would pick up large swaths of suspects since they did not know who was guilty. It was expected that they would be interrogated and released if not guilty. Instead many spent months in prison and endured abuse. When the news broke, our nation’s image of having a respected military was even more tarnished. It was known to soldiers around the world that if they surrendered to American soldiers, they would be treated according to the Geneva Conventions and were more likely to surrender in a fight. Today a soldier might think twice about surrendering to our forces. It also exposes our troops to these types of interrogation techniques on a future battlefield. I believe it may become necessary in the interest of national security to use force to get information, but their has to be evidence that the person has important information and authorization from the President or some other higher authority. This way, there is someone who is taking responsibility for his/her actions. During the recent abuse scandal, everybody wiped their hands clean and screwed the grunts. There is no way that regular prison guards decided to interrogate people with these special interrogation techniques.
Staying the course in Iraq is no longer a plan. We need a new defense secretary who has a more open mind and more ideas. All possibilities should be taken into account before going to war, which Rumsfeld did not do. I believe even if he claims the President still trusts him, he should step aside for the benefit of our country. People makes mistakes, but when they continue and people continue to die, someone needs to take responsibility. Clinton’s defense secretary resigned after Somalia, which is nothing compared to the fiasco in Iraq.
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Interesting point about Clinton's defense secretary. Had the Republicans not been so concerned about casualties then, we may not have pulled out after the loss of 18 marines and airmen.
He should go, no doubt in my mind! He has done a very bad job!
Rumsfeld should go. Along the road, we’re going to have to eventually dismantle North Korea. With all that hype on their nuclear weapon tests there seem to be an inevitable war ahead of us. America should prepare for all measures, since we’re not popular amongst other countries. Even though I strongly dislike the ideal of a war, we don’t have a choice. America should take measures to strengthen and protect our citizens.
How many Americans were killed in the 10 largest US cities with Democrat mayors last month? I bet the number exceeds the number of Americans killed in Iraq. Libs are intelluctually dishonest and base their "Hate America First" positions on lies and distortions. Is defeating America and losing the war on terror that important to you?
"How many Americans were killed in the 10 largest US cities with Democrat mayors last month? I bet the number exceeds the number of Americans killed in Iraq."
You've GOT to be kidding me. What the hell point does that make? "..it's OK that Americans are dying in a war that we were lied into, because I think that maybe if you add up the number of killings around some cities here the number's are big too..." Are you THAT stupid? It pains me that there are such idiots out there... Idiots with no guts none the less, "anonymous".
Oh, and yes, Rumsfeld should go.
I totally agree about bad planning of Rumsfeld's in Iraq's war. Going in to war in some ways is similar to buying a brand new car or buying a house. You need to leave enough backup for some emergency cases. If you are sick or out of work for a month, you should be able to cover expenses and pay the car payment or the mortgage. Excellent planning is based on the time length, victory in a short time which needs a high effort in short time.
I would like to have an intellectual discussion on WHY Secretary Rumsfeld should go. I would like someone to address a singular point and discuss this point until there is nothing more to be said. I think if this is done some of you may have a differing opinion of Secretary Rumsfeld. I highly doubt most people are up to the task but I would be remiss if I didn't at least make an attempt.
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How many Americans were killed in the 10 largest US cities with Democrat mayors last month? I bet the number exceeds the number of Americans killed in Iraq. Libs are intelluctually dishonest and base their "Hate America First" positions on lies and distortions."
Wow, this is beyond irrational. Actually we love America, we're just embarrassed at this joke of a president who is incompetent on so many levels. OH YES, let's just love America by invading other countries and becoming imperialistic dictators. I thought we were supposed to save American lives, but instead we have about 3,000 American soldiers deaths. Aren't we just so thoughtful. We decided to take the fight to background Iraq so that 100,000+ innocent Iraqi civilians could die on our behalf as well. No wonder why they want us out of there!
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What do you want? What foreign policy do most liberals stand for? What is the plan for the Democratic Party when it comes to Iraq and the world stage? Everybody tirelessly states the policy they don't want. O.K., I get it. What policy DO you want? Isolationism? I didn't work sixty years ago, I doubt it will work with the MUCH smaller world we live in today.
The only way the Democrats lose in 2008 is IF they nominate Hillary. Let's face it folds, she is simply toxic, right or wrong, to a large percentage of the electorate. I am continually surprised by the ignoring and omission of the one person who could certainly derail the Hillary Express: Al Gore. He was shafted in 2000, was right on the war, and has been a true visionary on the environment. He sits on the board of Apple, are we in store for an Ipod like product introduction?
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You are right, Bush should have never invaded Iraq. It is a shithole country, full of shithole people that will never, ever, be able to govern themselves without a dictator that will not only threaten, but follow through with subjecting his people to the most abhorrent treatment unless they support him. I mean come on. Everyone knows that the people in the middle east are no different from the people of Africa. If you give them liberty, freedom, the right to self governance, and the ability to start a democracy even in a nation with TREMENDOUS NATURAL RESOURCES they will fuck it up, start killing each other, subject themselves to poverty, starvation, and genocide. Like I said you are 100% right, what the hell was Bush thinking? He should have left Saddam in power, let women be hidden behind a veil, be killed for just being accused of adultery or having pre-marital sex,let female castration continue. Let Saddam's sons continue to cruise schools and pick up 12 year old girls and rape them. And if they resist bring in their entire families so they can rape them in front of their family, rape their sisters and mothers, kill their brothers and fathers and uncles in front of them and tell them it is their fault and then let them go after few weeks of torture. What the hell is wrong with that? I mean really, what is wrong with a country that tortures their olympic athletes and the athlete's families for failing to medal in the games?
You know, given another 100 or so years those UN sactions might have actually worked. Fucking republicans just could not give it time
I think that he should go.
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Rumsfeild in definitely a BS Artist.
Although he lost a title, he still didn't lose and power.
I really enjoy reading your blog, it always has great insight. But I am very frustrated with the media’s lack of questions to the presidential candidates about global warming.
The Daily Green just put an article out talking about how the presidential candidates are not being asked where they stand on the issue of the climate change - this is surprising to me considering its such a MAJOR concern to people. I just saw a poll on www.EarthLab.com that says people care a lot what their next leader thinks about global warming (after you take it they show you the results). Does anyone know of another poll or other results about this subject?
If not, go to http://www.earthlab.com/life.aspx and take their poll to see which way the results go. This is a pretty legit website; they are endorsed by Al Gore and the alliance for climate protection and they have a carbon footprint calculator. No matter which political party you vote for this is an important issue for our environment, our economy and for homeland security.
Hey thanks for the great blog, I love this stuff. I don’t usually read much into politics but with the election coming up (not to mention the dem primaries) and everyone going green these days I thought I would leave a comment.
I am trying to find more about the government and if they are going to ratify the Kyoto Protocol any time soon. Has anyone seen this pole on EarthLab.com http://www.earthlab.com/life.aspx ? It said 75% of people think the government should ratify the Kyoto Protocol on Earth Day (when I took it). I also saw something on Wikipedia but it wasn’t up to date. Any other thoughts on where the government is going with this?
I am looking for more info on what candidates’ opinions are and how are we are going to get closer to solutions. Drop a link if you see anything worth my time.
Hey thanks for the great blog, I love this stuff. I've been paying more attention to politics lately, but my focus is always on the environment and how important it is. I know Earth Day has already passed us by, but with everyone going green these days, I thought I’d try to do my part.
I am trying to find easy, simple things I can do to help stop global warming (I don’t plan on buying a hybrid). Has anyone seen that EarthLab.com is promoting their Earth Day (month) challenge, with the goal to get 1 million people to take their carbon footprint test in April?... I took the test, it was easy and only took me about 2 minutes and I am planning on lowering my score with some of their tips.
I am looking for more easy fun stuff to do. If you know of any other sites worth my time let me know.
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